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Hi John,
Too much work last week...
Youre email on the site
> The ftp problem does worry me. I will almost certainly
> be providing some programs later that people can download.
> Will this still be possible with http://brain.eu.org?
You don't need ftp for downloads (http server can handel it)
> At present the Internet is fragmented - we have Email, ftp,
> News, WWW, LDAP, gopher, telnet etc. Of course, the only
> one you really need is WWW. You may initially disagree but
> think about it for a moment - we could have "Webmail" instead
> of Email. Email could appear as web pages on your server. One
What about people with only a UUCP connection to the Net.
> reason this will happen is that punters want full colour
> with graphics integrated with text and you can't get that
> with standard Email. You need a webneuron type revolution to
with attachments you can.
> do all this but if/when it happens, Email servers will be redundant
> Going a little further down the line, when the telecoms people
> become ISP's themselves and each "mini-phone call" is a
> URL request (you may pay a fixed line rental only), then Webmail
> will also replace the FAX. The Internet phone should
Email already is a good alternative to the fax.
> replace the conventional one. Personal computer operating
> systems will probably be based on HTML pages with suitable
> extensions to allow programmability, i.e "webneurons". So
> Webmail will go straight to web pages on your PC without
> the need of an intermediate ISP. Phone calls will use a
> PPP system and be in "packets". A spin off is that everyones'
> PC will become a server, and therefore a publisher. The
> bandwidth problem will be solved. Speed problems are always
> conquered, as are storage problems.
Bandwidth is like RAM and HD space you never have enough of it.
> The others like ftp, News, LDAP etc can also be disposed of
> by similar methods. In fact gopher and telnet are already historic.
Telnet historic? You must be joking.
Your mail on Java:
> This from Steve Gardner of Powernet, my ISP, on Java.
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> Hi John
>
> >>You cant just remove a way of life for a percentage of the users of the Net,
> >>all you can do is make your additions so good that they slowly over time
> >>superseed older ways. The Net is a very big place and nothing changes fast.
Fast is a relative justment. I think the the replacement of the Gopher protocol
by http happened fast
> >
> >Yes, I agree with your evolution principle. But wouldn't you say that things like
> >Java have happened very fast? Now, I am told to be part of Microsoft Windows
OS!
>
> Yes, things like JAVA have happened very fast, but JAVA is realy only a bolt on
> which you can take or leave, that runs on top of existing protocols.
JAVA is still in its development phase.
The whole Net runs on top of TCP-IP if you don't use it people won't be able
to connect to you or they have to add protocols to there computer
> If you were to try and implement your ideas over the existing http you will
> end up with a shadow of your true vision. Your changes are realy at a very low
> level, and of a fundermental nature. Either that or you compromise your plans
> and end up with "JAVA II" :) which would be much easier to integrate into the
> Net, but would defeat the objectives that you have setout to achieve.
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>
> If he is right then it may be no good to use Java as you suggest.
And HTML too off course! You have to 'reinvent the wheel'
The vision and objectives are still a bit vague to me.
Your mail on assembler
> ASSEMBLER LEVEL possibilities
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> Having thought about this a bit, it won't be possible to build an
> assembler based global software
If everbody uses the same CPUs it might be..
> The thought crosses my mind that webneurons could have some things the
> brain doesn't. One of them is that since URL's are countless, then
> webneurons can be countless. So we could make an arbitrarily large
> software "brain". Whether the other features of a real brain could be
> understood enough to be duplicated is another question.
> My guess is yes, over time.
I don't think you can duplicate the brain using a algoritm.
And if it would be possible I wouldn't want my computer to function
like a human, if it means I get disussions with my computers like
Me: Gallinago [name of my linux PC], I'd like to finish
my email to John.
Gallinago: Email ? to John?
Me: Yes, the one I started yesterday
Gallinago: Oepps I've forgotten where I've put it.
or
Me: Gallinago, I'd like to finish my email to John.
Gallinago: I don't feel like finishing email messages
Me: Yes, but we have to.
Gallinago: Lets play chess.
> Can you set up a website at your end? We could then link up using the same
> format of pages. Alternatively I could give you the login and password to
> brain.eu.org and you could add to the site here.
I'm working on setting up a site. By the way what kind of connection has
Powernet to the Net, it seems quite slow to me.
Regards,
Frank
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